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Post by tventura on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 11:31

Guys,

Jens and I spoke to Kats yesterday and he believes he's entitled to get all of his deposit back after quitting the league. He actually had a $100 deposit and we told him he's only getting $50 back (just like Billy lost $50 when he quit). I told him if he wants his full $100 back that the league will need to vote on this (as it is the leagues money) and the fact that we put a deposit down for reason's like this "so people don't quit".

With that being said please vote on if we should give Kats $50 back or his full $100 back?
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Post by Guest on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 12:39

if Vas lost 50, so should Kats

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Post by Yanne on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 13:37

if Vas lost 50, so should Kats
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Post by tventura on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 13:38

if Vas lost 50, so should Kats
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Post by Guest on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 18:25

If Vas lost 50, so should Kats

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Post by The Ghost on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 18:49

If Vas lost 50, so should Kats

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Post by vsobs on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 20:28

If Vas lost 50, so should Kats
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Post by newbs on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 21:09

If Vas lost 50, so should Kats
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Post by Guest on Wed 4 Jul 2012 - 22:49

I said IF························but now I am hearing a different tune??

Jens, what really happened here?

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Post by Yanne on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 0:03

Lou on the site it said he only paid an extra 50! Lou yiu always speak of this 3 year commitment but isnt the deposit to keep guys from quitting??

Fuck you Greeks are slimy and dumb!!!
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Post by Guest on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 9:36

what happened with Vas's team?

anyway.............this is what should happen:
if you sold his team to another GM, then that money should go to Kats, minus of course any outstanding dues and fees should there be any.

if we don't have anything written down in our rules, this is a good time to start. it happened once with Vas, and now this is the second time within a year.
we have to have something in writing so we don't do this each and every time, and it wont vary from GM to GM.

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Post by vsobs on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 11:00

You know what's hillarious here. Lou, is the first one that said:
If Vas lost 50, so should Kats
Lou didn't expect everybody to agree and wanted an argument. He was lost so he brought something else up and tried stirring up things. He got all confused.

Don't worry Lou. We only have to worry about it 2 more times. The common denominator here is 2 GREEKS 2 QUITTERS.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I love the Greek quitters!
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Post by Guest on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 12:48

DON'T EVER CALL ANYONE A QUITTER.................YOU ARE KING QUITTER!

all I know, is that this is your second keeper league, and you have already quit twice, once in each league!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....................

fucking idiot!!

and, where do you get 2 Greeks 2 quitters??
since you didn't pass grade 2 math, I will help you!
it was 4 Greeks and 2 quitters, 2 Greeks left!!
you follow that moron?

as for Kats, I have no clue what happened!
but Jens said` (just like Billy lost $50 when he quit)` and I assumed this was the truth. now I am hearing a different story dickhead.

so I will ask Tom to figure this out, because it seems everyone with a badge is the dirtiest/scummiest/cheats in this pool!

1. whatever Vas lost or gained, should be what Kats loses or gains.
2. get something sorted out asap for people the quit/sell their teams.

and with this..................did Kats quit???
if so, then how does someone purchase his team??
it sounds to me like he wanted no part of you MORONS and told Jens he wants out. in turn, Jens decided to find one of his buddies that was NEVER approved by any of us to buy his team.

he did BUY Kats's team right??
and if he did so, then the sale of the team should go to the person who owned the team!!

am I missing something here?

Vic, no need to respond....................as your stupid/idiotic comments mean nothing to anyone!

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Post by tventura on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 13:47

Lou, the long and short of the story is this. Both billy and Kats had $100 deposits down when they quit, billy lost $50 of that deposit and Kats thinks he should get the full $100 back. We voted no, he loses 50 just like billy did, end of story......if Kats wants to take this to the supreme court and have Jackie Childs as his lawyer then go for it...done and done.
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Post by Guest on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 14:20

perfect..............end of story!!

now, can we get something down in writing for our rules and regulations.
so the next time someone quits, we don't need to vote on anything

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Post by newbs on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 14:24

Listen Lou, I paid fair market value for a second last place team with limited prospects, no first or second round picks this year, 4 superstars (money ball, what the fuck) in the first year of a keeper league, that had two people quit, and the commissioner replaced. I will let you figure out the price of the team. The price may be a little higher if the team was even close to being competitive, and had a shot at being in the money in the next 2 or 3 years. You know that is not the case. Not to mention I'm a little strapped for cash now with the "Greek Tax" being imposed.
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Post by Guest on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 15:57

hey, all I'm saying is.......................the money you paid for this team should go to the seller of this team.

is that not how this works?

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Post by Yanne on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 18:04

Lou you hypocrite dummy!!!

What do you think I charged Newbs to buy the team?? $500?
No, the agreement was that he pays the entrance fee, I'm not here to make money of friends, well yes I am but only when I win the pool!

Why are these quitters allowed to quit and then be reimbursed their deposit?? Everybody knew the deposit was to keep people from quitting, it's in the rules! They should be happy we gave them $50 back!!

As for selling teams! If they quit, I choose who joins, not them! If that's not how it works let me know and I'll sell Vic my team for $20 in the WFHL!!



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Post by newbs on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 18:33

Lou,
I am a very generous man, to a point. I will pay the "Greek Tax", I will pay for the trophy, hell I will pay for some Pizza Wheel for Vic, if it keeps him quite for a while.
WHAT I WILL NOT DO is pay for a quitter. This wasn't a situation where a guy was on the fence thinking about quiting and started negotiation with me to purchase this team. KATS just quit, leaving you without a GM less then two weeks before the draft.

The writing was on the wall on June 14, 2012 when this happened:

KATS GETS BRAD RICHARDS AND TOMAS VOKOUN
ANGELO GETS ANNTTI NIEMI AND 4TH 2012 (WHITEYS)

That trade should have said it all. KATS was sinking this team. I lose a starting goalie and a 4th this year and get back a bench goalie that retires shortly and Richards. REALLY, Richards is no longer in the superstar realm, this went completely against the moneyball strategy that KATS was employing.

So yes Kats can have what I paid for this team, absolutely nothing. You should be happy you just got a GM in this league that will be active, will not fucking quit and is willing so support the "Greek Tax". Like I said im a generous man, and im willing to donate my $160.00 over the next few years, and try and fix this mess. KATS was not willing to do the same.






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Post by Yanne on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 19:15

Newbs ask Lou about the tarde above and who Kats traded with!

Please Lou answer that for the league!!! Im sure Kats wasn't trying to help his buddy who was strapped for a starting goalie!!!!

GREEKS = TANKERS, QUITTERS AND CHEATERS!!!!
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Post by Guest on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 19:38

jens, please tell me if you wrote this:

"if you truly want to quit, we will give you back the deposit for years 2 and 3. I won't be selling the team for anything. The new GM will just pay the $160.00 entrance fee"

did anything change from June 25th till now?

Newbs, I have no problem with what you did............you just did what you were told to do.
so shut the fuck up!

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Post by Yanne on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 19:50

I did write that but then I was told by our financial advisor that we only gave billy half the money back too!! Plus you told me that all decisions on the league should be put to a vote! That's what I did!

You never answered two of my questions.

1. Newbs asked about the trade that team money ball made ad how it seemed odd. Tell newbs who he traded with and how Ang didn't need a goalie!

2. Did Kats not know about the Rob Hallett rule that was posted on march 13, 2011?? We all agreed the deposit would be lost if someone quit, so Kats should be happy we're all friends and giving him $50 back!!

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Post by newbs on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 20:14

Lou
I was never asking if you had a problem with me joining the league or not. I DON'T CARE what you think. The league was presented with a GM, and voted on it. If I recall you voted me in DUMMY. Take my charity and shut up!
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Post by Guest on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 21:25

1. the trade has an odour to it..........ask Angelo if he thinks it's legit!
2. if you quit, you should lose your money!! PERIOD!!

but............I am being told that this is not the case and that you sold his team instead. I am in the middle and I told him I would look into this mater.

Newbs, I voted you in because I want your money!! SIMPLE!!
now when will you be in town so I can take you out, get you drunk and take advantage of you! unlike Tom, I want to take advantage of you in the trade sense and not the sex sense!

Jens, third overall is still available! I think we had something worked out with some moving parts! let me know if you are still interested.

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Post by Yanne on Thu 5 Jul 2012 - 22:18

Im always interested Lou!!!!
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