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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 14:52

THIS IS WHAT 7 PEOPLE IN OTHER POOLS AND DOBBER SAID.

REMEMBER, THIS IS TOM'S BIBLE AND KATS AND BILLY POST HERE!

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE AND ASKED FOR ADVICE:
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Guys, I really need your input. I am going for it this year. What trade is better for me.

1st Trade Scenario:
I give away Ryan Miller
I get Tim Thomas and 2nd rd pick(16th overall)

OR

2nd Trade Scenario:
I give away Bobby Ryan
I get Wayne Simmonds, Sean Couturier, 1st (8th or 9th overall)

REMEMBER, I AM GOING FOR IT THIS YEAR!

I am doing one of these trades. Scoring system is simply 1pt=1pt No PIM pts. I will be putting in Simmonds in for Bobby Ryan or Tim Thomas in for Ryan Miller. Goalies 2pts for win and 2pts for shutouts.

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Re: THOMAS FOR MILLER AND RYAN FOR WHOEVER

Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 14:59

Going for it this year? You don't do either!!!!!!!
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 14:59

Yeah neither trade helps you this year man.
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:00

Don't do either trade.

If you are hellbent on a trade then for this year I guess the Miller trade is less bad. You still lose the deal but not as badly
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:01

Definitely no go for either. With Thomas splitting duties with Rask, you lose the 1st trade. Simmonds cannot compare with Ryan and the addition of Couturier does not help you this year at all.
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:02

Keep what you have. Don't give away two of your better players for prospects, picks and an old goalie that is splitting starts in Boston.
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Re: THOMAS FOR MILLER AND RYAN FOR WHOEVER

Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:04

i dont like either of these both hurt you long term and short term
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:04

Like the others have said, both these deals are bad for you in the short-term, and also in the long-term.

Keep your studs Miller and Ryan.
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Re: THOMAS FOR MILLER AND RYAN FOR WHOEVER

Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:43

These UNBIASED posts proves Tom is a SNAKE and the rest of you guys are PATHETIC and FOLLOWERS! I LOVE IT!(*EXCEPT LOU*)

1. EVERYBODY SAID BOTH TRADES WERE BAD BUT NOBODY SAID THE THOMAS TRADE WAS WORSE THAN THE RYAN ONE.

2. ONE PERSON SAID THEY WOULD RATHER DO THE THOMAS TRADE RATHER THAN THE RYAN ONE IF THEY HAD TO YET THE THOMAS TRADE IS THE ONLY VETOED TRADE AT THIS POINT. TOM KNOWS THAT IF HE VETOED THE RYAN TRADE HIS STASTNY TRADE WOULD LOOK EVEN WORSE! I SEE IT TOM. HAHAHA.

3. TOM, KATS, AND BILLY USE DOBBER ALL THE TIME. (IE.BILLY AND KATS POSTING THERE TRADES FOR VIEWS AND TOM USING ANGUS AS AN ADVISOR) HAHAHA

4. ANGELO, YOU ARE A FOLLOWER AND ONLY VETOED THE TRADE BECAUSE YOU WANT A BETTER CHANCE AT WINNING.

5. ROB, YOU ARE THE BEST DEFLECTOR AND UNBIASED OPINIONS HAVE PROVED IT. YOUR OVECHKIN TRADE WAS ALSO RIDICULED ON DOBBER WHEN BILLY AND KATS POSTED IT!
YOU ARE THE DEFLECTOR, LOSER, LOW-LIFE AND STUPID!

6. YES, THE TRADE IS VETOED BUT THESE POSTS PROVE WHAT HYPOCRITES YOU GUYS ARE. UNBIASED PEOPLE PROVED IT FOR ME. I LOVE IT!

*IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THE POSTS (AND THESE ARE ALL OF THEM) FEEL FREE TO VIEW DOOBER AT HOCKEY FORUMS FOLLOWED BY KEEPER LEAGUE - TRADE TALK. NO NEED TO MAKE FAKE POSTS ON DOBBER. I THINK 6 FOR 6 IS GOOD ENOUGH. HAHAHA. *

P.S. TOM, REMEMBER YOU VETOED MY TRADE TO TRY AND BEAT ME. I LOVE IT. YOU WILL DO ANYTHING TO TRY AND BEAT ME! THE UNBIASED OPINIONS HAVE SPOKEN. I LOVE IT! YOUR PATHETIC TOM! HAHAHA. YOU ARE SUCH A SNAKE! THANK YOU FOR PROVING IT!

HAVE I SAID HOW MUCH I LOVE UNBIASED OPINIONS!!!HAHAHA


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Re: THOMAS FOR MILLER AND RYAN FOR WHOEVER

Post by Guest on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:44

what is the point of this??

they said dont make trade miller and dont trade ryan

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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 15:48

DID YOU VOTE ON THE RYAN VETO YET ANG. YOU GUYS WILL VETO MY BAD TRADE BUT NOT ONE JUST AS BAD OR WORSE. THAT IS MY POINT. ONLY LOU AND JENS ARE MAN ENOUGH TO NOT BE INFLUENCED BY TOM. APPARENTLY, YOU ARE NOT.

REMEMBER 6 OUT OF 6 UNBIASED OPINIONS!
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Post by Guest on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 16:35

im not voting to veto the ryan trade because its not in the same ballpark as the miller trade

theres a 1st round pick involved and a stud prospect and a decent forward

i think willy got raped but its not a veto trade

yours made no sense though

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Post by Guest on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 18:28

Vic, YOU ARE A FCKN LOSERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


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Post by Guest on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 18:46

Vic, you FCKN hypocrite, and deflector:

If you posted, your earlier trade of;

Carter, Berglund, Heatley, Kaberle, Kreider, and a fckn #1

for

Tavares, Shattenkirk, Bernier, and a fckn #5,

DOBBER, and everyone else in the world would say you killed retard Vas in that trade, and it should have been vetoed.

If Willy "was going for it", as you previously stated, why isn't he in your pathetic rankings, as a possible #1. You are nothing but a fckn whining hyprocrite, who will do anything to win. You call Tom a snake, you are the slithering snake in this pool.

You try and justify my trade by putting the remark that Willy's team is going for it this year. Well you didn't seem to think so in your gay rankings. Of course people are going to answer the way they did, because they are of the belief he is actually in the money NOW. Unlike your pathetic trade that got vetoed, my trade has potential now, and in the future. A 1st rounder, a top 10 pick from this year, and a young forward with upside is fair value for B.Ryan. Nothing good came out of your pathetic Miller - Thomas trade, and the GM's spoke up unanimously, and vetoed your trade with authority. That last I looked, only one person has decided to veto my trade. This obviously means something dummy. It's not as lopsided as you want to think. Pretty good start for Simmonds so far, 2 games, 2 points, although I'm pretty confident Ryan will outscore him by the end of the year.

Get a fckn life loser!


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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 21:26

Rob suck some more Tom cock like you know how to do.

1. I ranked Willy 2nd to 4th. I think that is going for it.YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID AND MAKE STUPID ARGUMENTS WITH NO VALIDITY! WOW!

2. Who cares what we think, let us shoot your argument down further and ask him if he was going for it. He told everybody , EXCEPT YOU APPARENTLY, he was!

3. I will post his team on Dobber and have UNBIASED opinions answer. I am sure people will think he is rebuilding and NOT GOING FOR IT!
IGINLA - 34 YRS OLD
VISNOVSKY - 35 YRS OLD
ZIDLICKY - 34 YRS OLD
TIMONEN - 36 YRS OLD
MARLEAU - 32 YRS. OLD
HAVLAT - 30 YRS. OLD
MILLER - 31 YRS. OLD
SHARP - 30 YRS. OLD (DECEMBER)
KIPRUSOFF - 35 YRS. OLD
9 OF 20 STARTING ROSTER PLAYERS ARE 30 OR MORE. ALMOST HALF!!!
DEFINITELY REBUILD MODE AND NOT GOING FOR IT! DEFINITELY!

REMEMBER, WILLY WAS NOT GOING FOR IT! HAHAHA

4. Willy gave you a 24 yr old. He gave me a 31 yr. old.
That makes sense to give away a 24 yr old as opposed to a31 yr old.

5. I am ok with my veto. HOW ABOUT YOU

6. Learn how to count. Lou and Jens equals 2. I would be 3.

7. 6 out of 6 Dobber posts think your trade is bad too. 1 thinks your trade is worse.
NOT 1 OF THOSE UNBIASED Dobber posts think my trade is worse than yours.
NOT 1![size=24]

8. Rob, if I was you and had your life, I would be a LOSER!


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Post by tventura on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 21:34

Vic I would first like to say that your Dobber post makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!
I think we would ALL agree that both of these trades (Miller and Ryan) ARE NOT GOOD if someone is “going for it” but that is not what we are debating here, we are debating veto or no veto!
I think you are missing a few things here, you seem to think that how a trade affects someone’s immediate PTS is the only indicator of a veto or no veto. The truth is there are many factors that come into play when you are looking at a trade in a keeper league….age, number of assets you get in return, immediate pts, future pts, upside…..
The fact that you called me and said Rob is going to win the pool the next 3 years because of this trade DOES NOT factor into why someone should veto a trade, you need to look at all the factors! I’m as competitive as they come and trust me I don’t want to lose the pool to anyone let alone a Leb in his first keeper league!

At the end of the day I completely understand why you are livid, you thought you were getting ARGUABLY THE BEST FANTASY GOALIE IN THE WORLD IN HIS PRIME “RYAN MILLER” and he is on one of the BEST TEAMS IN THE NHL BUFFALO to boot….for a 37 year old Thomas and a late second rounder. You even said it yourself you knew it was going to get vetoed but you were HOPING!!!
On that note see our Bobby Ryan vote…

BTW it was funny seeing how many people on Dobber think Thomas is splitting time this year and the fact that you put in Lehtonen instead of Thomas when your trade was vetoed just goes to show how highly you think of Thomas LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL - the second you hear Rask may start the 2nd game of the season you put Lehtonen in. Just for the record boys Vic started Bryzgalov and Thomas on our bet (3:1 odds) my origonal picked team vs everyone elses origonal team!!! FUCKING RAT!
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Post by Guest on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 21:54

Vic, LOOK IN THE MIRROR, YOU ARE A LOSER, EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU, AND YOUR LIFE! HAHA HAHA

FCKN LOSER

I'm not going to waste anymore time on you, because YOU ARE NOT WORTH IT ! LOSER!

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Post by Guest on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 21:58

Good job Tom, now come over....Better yet, let's have a sleep over!

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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 22:01

ALLOW ME TO RETORT:
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Vic I would first like to say that your Dobber post makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!1. I think we would ALL agree that both of these trades (Miller and Ryan) ARE NOT GOOD if someone is “going for it” but that is not what we are debating here, we are debating veto or no veto!I think you are missing a few things here, you seem to think that how a trade affects someone’s immediate PTS is the only indicator of a veto or no veto. The truth is there are many factors that come into play when you are looking at a trade in a keeper league….age, number of assets you get in return, immediate pts, future pts, upside…..
2.The fact that you called me and said Rob is going to win the pool the next 3 years because of this trade DOES NOT factor into why someone should veto a trade, you need to look at all the factors! I’m as competitive as they come and trust me I don’t want to lose the pool to anyone let alone a Leb in his first keeper league!
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1. A veto on a trade is based on whether it is good or bad.
1. The Ryan trade would make your Stastny trade look even worse.
ie. Granlund - Couturier
Demers - Simmonds
2nd 2012 3rd 2013 - 1st 2012

THE ONLY DIFFERENC IS THAT STASTNY HAS SCORED 70 PTS. 3 TIMES. HAHA. YOURS IS WORSE AND YOU SAID THAT THE TRADES WERE BAD UP TOP!

2. I'M pretty sure I said 5 yrs.
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 22:04

ALLOW ME TO RETORT TO 2ND PARAGRAPH:
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At the end of the day I completely understand why you are livid, you thought you were getting ARGUABLY THE BEST FANTASY GOALIE IN THE WORLD IN HIS PRIME “RYAN MILLER” and he is on one of the BEST TEAMS IN THE NHL BUFFALO to boot….for a 37 year old Thomas and a late second rounder.1.You even said it yourself you knew it was going to get vetoed but you were HOPING!!! On that note see our Bobby Ryan vote…
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1. I NEVER SAID I WAS HOPING. NEVER!!!! DON'T LIE TOM. YOU HAVE MY TEXT AND ARE FREE TO SHOW EVERYONE!
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Post by Admin on Sun 9 Oct 2011 - 22:48

ALLOW ME TO RETORT TO YOUR 3RD PARAGRAPH:
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BTW it was funny seeing how many people on Dobber think Thomas is splitting time this year and the fact that you put in Lehtonen instead of Thomas when your trade was vetoed just goes to show how highly you think of Thomas LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL - 1.the second you hear Rask may start the 2nd game of the season you put Lehtonen in. Just for the record boys Vic started Bryzgalov and Thomas on our bet (3:1 odds) my origonal picked team vs everyone elses origonal team!!! FUCKING RAT! ____________________________________________________________
1. I heard Rask was starting. Did Julien call me. hahaha.
1. I put Lehtonen in cause I knew I would get that respons out of you. Just out of spite. haha. AND HE ACTUALLY BEAT CHICAGO THE FIRST GAME. GO FIGURE. MUST BE KARMA!

2. YOU FUCKING LIAR. GOOD THING I SENT MY STARTING ROSTER TO ME TOO.

I STARTED RINNE YOU FUCKING RETARD!

ANYTHING TO MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT LOOK BETTER. NO FACTS AND ONLY TOM LIES. I LOVE IT!
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Post by Admin on Mon 10 Oct 2011 - 1:36

Rob, as somebody once told me:

"Don't hate. Appreciate"

Now FUCK OFF! LOSER!
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Post by Admin on Mon 10 Oct 2011 - 4:15

I want to finish off by thanking all those that participated in this post.

Lastly, I want to thank those 6 UNBIASED posts in Dobber for proving me right!

THANK YOU! ROB, FUCK OFF STUPID! LOL.
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